Designer Kyle Lockwood chats to One News about the Silver Fern Flag, Click image to view report.
Thank you to all 921,786 voters who chose the Silver Fern flag.
To design a flag is no mean feat – when I first did this many years ago, I didn’t imagine the day would come where it would be selected from over 10,000 designs and I would see it fly from baches, beaches, boats and buildings all over New Zealand. I am incredibly humbled by that.
I am proud to be a Kiwi and thrilled to have cast my own vote in a world-first referendum process.
Along the way there’s been robust and deeply passionate discussions – I remember a headline when the four alternatives were first announced “Four alternative flags, four million opinions” and that sums it up really!
Irrespective of the result, nearly 1 million of you have loved the Silver Fern and I hope that you will continue to fly it.
I myself will continue to wear the Silver Fern flag wherever I go, and of course I’ll be just as proud to march behind the official New Zealand flag this coming ANZAC day as I have done since 1996 when I was a volunteer in the NZ Army.
Kyle Lockwood DipDArch DipArchTech MNZIOB
Silver Fern flag
Which flag have you voted for?
Normally, I'd keep my voting private but in this instance I think you can understand that I have voted for the Silver Fern Flag design!
What do you think of the polls saying the flag won't change?
They are interesting of course, but the only 'poll' as such that is relevant in this process, is the referendum.
If your flag gets chosen in the referendum, does that mean you get paid?
No I will not. I have assigned the rights to the Crown and would receive no payment whatsoever.
What will you do with your flag if it isn't successful in the referendum?
The Crown will assign the rights back to myself, There are a large number of supporters of the Silver Fern Flag, possibly over a million kiwis, and I will continue to sell the flag online through silverfernflag.org as I have done since 2006.
What does it feel like right now, when thinking your design could be the new NZ flag?
To be honest, it's huge and a little overwhelming.
My grandmother flies my flag in the Wellington wind each day, and probably the most emotional and humbling moments for me have been seeing it flown around the country everywhere on boats, beaches, baches and buildings, and seeing it flying representing New Zealand in exotic places around the world has been pretty humbling too!
Have people recognised you? What's it been like to be in the 'public eye'?
I'm just an ordinary guy and life has been as per usual for me. I've had people recognise me in the street and compliment me which was very nice of them.
Have you ever met John Key?
I'd never met him in my life until just a couple of weeks ago at an informal gathering where the designers from the first referendum were invited to attend by responsible minister Bill English, and acknowledged.
There's been criticism of the process, your design, and even that you are not a designer, what do you think of that?
I am an architectural designer with a 15-year international career in architecture, so I 'eat, breathe and sleep' design for a living. I first designed this flag 16 years ago and have since carefully refined it a number of times based on feedback from leading international vexillogists.
Of course there are going to be different viewpoints for all sorts of subjective reasons. I remember a headline when the four alternatives were first announced "Four alternative flags, four million opinions" and that sums it up really!
Do you think the Flag Consideration Panel could have done things differently?
I don't think there's anything significant that you could do differently - they had a tough job to do. It was a robust process, and let's face it, a selection had to be made by someone! The fact that people get to vote on it in a democratic referendum process made me pretty proud to be a Kiwi!
Change the NZ Flag, along with many high-profile New Zealanders have been promoting your flag, what's your involvement in that?
I'm not part of that organisation or have any financial part in it. Of course, I'm very humbled by the many people who have shown support for the Silver Fern flag, and I thank them immensely for their passion and enthusiasm!
What's next for you? You've bought back the 10-year passport, you have designed what could be New Zealand's next flag, will you be writing a new national anthem for New Zealand?
I'm a designer, and definitely not a songwriter! I tend to campaign for matters that I am passionate about, and that I feel are beneficial to Kiwis both in New Zealand, and overseas!
The flag debate enters its final phase badly skewed by factors that have little to do with our national symbol.
NZ Listener 3 March 2016
The flag debate on the streets of West Auckland.
The flag debate enters its final phase badly skewed by factors that have little to do with our national symbol. To the many voters who oppose change because they like the present flag or dislike the alternative, we can add those wanting to use the referendum for a purely political point.
And yet it’s not too late to get the debate back on track. The Listener stands by the simple question it posed two years ago: does New Zealand have a clear sense of its own national identity or are we still so unsure of ourselves that we must present an image to the world of being a distant appendage of a former colonial power?
It’s helpful to look at this in an historical context. A booklet just published by the Flag Consideration Panel reminds us that when the current flag with its Union Jack was adopted, New Zealand troops were fighting for the British Empire in South Africa. And they wore the silver fern.
Even then there was recognition of the fern’s cherished role in New Zealand. As Sir Tipene O’Regan of Ngai Tahu has said, “Maori have always honoured the fern, giving it a pride of place.” To Maori, the silver fern denotes “strength, stubborn resistance and enduring power”.
However, at that time, most New Zealand citizens had been born in the United Kingdom or were the offspring of people born in the UK. Until 1949, New Zealanders carried British passports. As recently as 1973, we were officially described as British subjects. God Save the Queen remained our official anthem until 1977. For New Zealanders not born then, the strength of the attachment to Britain must seem extraordinary.
That umbilical cord was severed when Britain joined the European Economic Community in 1973. What alarmed us then as a frightening abandonment turned out instead to be a momentous act of liberation, setting New Zealand free from its stifling dependence on Britain.
By the 70s, most other former British colonies had already dropped the Union Jack from their flags. Prominent voices here spoke out for change – including that of union leader Ken Douglas, who suggested in 1969 that we adopt the silver fern and Southern Cross. Earlier still, Labour leader Norman Kirk, whose tenure as prime minister would be defined by a determination that New Zealand should make its own way in the world, had called for a change of flag to distinguish ours from Australia’
In the decades since, the case for a new flag has become more compelling. From being a stolidly Anglo-Saxon outpost, Auckland is now the world’s fourth-most ethnically diverse city. We have forged close relationships with other countries, most notably in Asia and the Pacific. Our relationship with London remains close and affectionate, but it no longer defines us.
Our flag has yet to catch up with this remarkable national metamorphosis. In this one vital symbolic respect, we remain locked in the rusted embrace of an extinct empire. The old flag fails miserably to reflect our status as a dynamic, independent, multicultural society in the South Pacific, proud of our Maori heritage.
Regrettably, much of the recent focus has been on the referenda cost – although it’s less, it transpires, than the annual taxpayer contribution in services to gang members. And amid all the talk of “tea-towel design”, we forget not all Canadians wanted a change of flag in 1964, still less the maple leaf, which did feature on tea towels.
It took a determined Prime Minister, Lester Pearson, to drive change. Canada’s now beloved flag features a stylised leaf with 11 points – of no special significance. The number was chosen after wind tunnel tests showed the design “to be the least blurry”. Yet how many Canadians today would argue that Canadian pride and identity hasn’t been greatly enhanced by one of the world’s most recognisable flags?
New Zealand has shown that it can be bold. This is the country that gave women the vote in 1893, took a principled stand against nuclear weapons in the 1980s and has won admiration time and again for its independence and fair-mindedness on the international stage. What a lost opportunity it would be for this nation if the political noise surrounding the current referendum deters us from what is so obviously the right decision.
Lieutenant Colonel (Rtd) Chris Mullane, ONZM, MBE
President of his local RSA, talking about fighting for our country and this historic flag vote.
"We fought for democracy"
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There's been a few questions lately about the appearance of the fern on the Silver Fern Flag.
It was decided early in the design phase to stylise the silver fern on the flag, just as the Canadian flag has a stylised maple leaf, the reason for stylisation is so the fern-leaf on the flag looks right when it's aloft in the breeze.
We've also been asked why isn't the fern silver?
In flag design convention, there are 5 official colours and 2 official metals, design rules stipulate that a colour must be separated by a metal.
Silver is represented in white just as gold is represented in yellow, have a look at the graphic below;
As a current serviceman deployed abroad I am watching (and voting) from afar and through my own poll with the numerous other nationalities I am currently working alongside, the silver fern is by far the one they can easily identify NZ with. Not only is the silver fern adorned on the NZ headstones in the numerous war graves around Europe, but also prominent on the current NZ Army and NZ Defence Force (NZDF) branding.
That said the flag is for all of NZ, not just the military. By applying the military appreciation process ‘Observe, Orientate, Decide, and Act’ an informed decision can be realised without political or organisational interference and bias so the action taken on the voting paper is an individual’s choice.
Through this referendum we have a chance to make history and provide a NZ identity for our grand and great grandchildren to rally under, rather than living in the past.
As a serving member of the NZDF I remain loyal to the NZ Flag of the day, it is my hope that come the 24th March 2016 we can march proudly into a future under a flag that is uniquely distinguishable and recognisable of NZ advancing, and not, marking time.
(*Name changed to protect the identity of the author currently deployed abroad on active service)